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2 November 2014

Skeptical about Skeptics

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This site has always been skeptical about skeptics.

Now there is a whole site dedicated to those who are devoted to

countering dogmatic, ill-informed attacks leveled by self-styled skeptics on pioneering scientific research, researchers, and their subjects.

Healthy skepticism is an important part of science, and indeed of common sense. But dogmatic skepticism uses skepticism as a weapon to defend an ideology or belief system, and inhibits the spirit of inquiry.

Visit http://www.skepticalaboutskeptics.org

20 January 2014

Freedom 4 Health

Freedom 4 Health

“The UK Advertising Standards Authority has shown bias and disregard for evidence when investigating the advertising of complementary, holistic and integrative medicine. It acts as prosecutor, judge and jury in one, despite having no legal authority, and publishes highly questionable “adjudications” on its website. Rather than being a balanced and independent assessment of the facts, these adjudications are more akin to a highly one-sided PR campaign against any unorthodox approaches to health care.”

5 January 2014

Skeptic persecution via Ben Goldacre BadScience Forum leads to patient suicide and medic perpetrator prosecution. GMC fails to act.

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/patient-committed-suicide-after-his-doctor-was-hounded-by-dr-ben-goldacres-badscience-forum-internet-bullies-perpetrators-mild-two-year-cautionary-sentence-only-just-ended-december-2013/

Perpetrator: Stuart Jones

Causing a patient to commit suicide by vicious bullying of the patient’s treating doctor specifically to “increase anxiety levels” in the victim doctor’s patients is apparently not a sufficiently serious crime to warrant more than a 2 year “caution” for the Health and Care Professions Council.

Although no charges were brought against the patient’s doctor by the GMC and the doctor was never called before the GMC, aborted investigations in 2006/07 cost the GMC £136,692.12 in solicitors’ fees and disbursements and a possible further £500,000 on internal costs – according to a report on a website set up to support the patient’s doctor by patients and wellwishers.

The GMC is funded by a levy paid by all medical doctors registered in the UK.

It appears also no action has been taken by the GMC regarding Dr Goldacre’s BadScience Forum activities.

The GMC is meant to act on patient complaints.  To complain to the GMC you can contact them on:

Email: gmc@gmc-uk.org.”

17 December 2013

Nightingale Collaboration – a key stakeholder prioritised by the Advertising Standards Authority

Nightingale Collaboration – a key stakeholder prioritised by the Advertising Standards Authority

From Letters to the Islington Tribune, London, UK

‘The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is pursuing a single complaint regarding 24 words on the clinic website that state homeopathy “is sanctioned by the UK government and has been an integral part of the National Health Service (NHS) since 1948”.

ASA Ltd, a private organisation, should not be abusing its powers to censor self-employed individuals by questioning factual information that does no harm to anyone.

The ASA, however, has a lobby group called the Nightingale Collaboration (NC) that it considers to be a “key stakeholder” informing its decisions, and with whom it has, in its own words, a “continued dialogue at a high level”. 

But why is the NC, an organisation specifically set up to target complementary health therapists, prioritised by the ASA, over and above patients and users of complementary therapists?

Why have they been given priority over and above patient choice and safety?’

29 June 2013

Why hounding homeopaths is both batty and arrogant.

“Ultimately what Nightingale is attacking is the intelligence and judgement of people who are trying to find an effective way to heal themselves. If homeopathy, which even its most virulent critics cannot claim is remotely likely to be harmful, works for you, then someone needs to combine serious arrogance with real battiness to believe they have the right to stand in the way.”

 Body of Evidence

There is no shortage of villains in the world. Psychopaths – domestic and national – whalers, toxic waste dumpers, global eavesdroppers, billionaire tax avoiders and their army of accountants –  all well worth campaigning against with the aim of getting them banged up or forced to cough up.

There is also an infinite supply of people who are mildly irritating who misplace apostrophes, wear Croc shoes, do crochet, litter their sentences with “you know” and text using their middle finger.

However most of us can tell the difference. In fact mixing the two categories up is a pretty reliable indicator of a serious level of battiness . Picketing shops that sell Crocs or campaigning to forbid the sale of mobiles to clumsy texters puts you firmly in the mild-to-fairly-irritating and definitely-a-bit -potty class.

Step forward the Nightingale Collaboration, earnest and self-styled defender of rationalism, whose seriously potty members have got…

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26 August 2010

Edzard Ernst Exposed

H:MC21 (Homeopathy: Medicine for the 21st Century) report that Professor Edzard Ernst the leading ‘authority’ on homeopathy, and perhaps its most referenced critic, has no qualifications in homeopathy.

William Alderson of HMC21 also claims that Ernst’s book Trick or Treatment? shows Ernst to be unreliable as a researcher into homeopathy. He outlines 11 mistakes made by Ernst which can arise from ignorance of the principles of homeopathy, and which can seriously affect the reliability of randomised controlled trials and meta-analyses of homeopathy.

He says ‘We believe that it is time to recognise that opposition to homeopathy is largely based on the opinions of individuals who are unqualified or unwilling to judge the evidence fairly.’

23 July 2010

Observations on Homeopathy Evidence Check

(my emphases)

Observations on the report Evidence Check 2: Homeopathy by the House
of Commons Science and Technology Committee, February 2010

1. Background

1.1. The report Evidence Check 2: Homeopathy was the second to be produced with
the purpose of examining how the UK Government uses evidence to
formulate and review its policies
. It was not an inquiry into homeopathy as
such
. The House of Commons Committee asked two principal questions:
What is the Government’s policy? And on what evidence is that policy
based?
The point was whether the scientific evidence supported the provision
of homeopathy by the NHS and the licensing of homeopathic products
by the MHRA.

1.2. The report received much publicity because of its firm rejection of evidence
for homeopathy’s efficacy on its way to answering these questions. The aim
of this paper is to focus on this one aspect of the Committee’s work, in view of
doubts voiced about the validity of its findings
. Sections 2 – 5 below address
this question.

1.3. The author served on the House of Lords Science and Technology Sub-
Committee which in 1999-2000 inquired into complementary and alternative
medicine (CAM). He was Co-Chairman of what used to be called the Parliamentary
Group for Alternative and Complementary Medicine during the
1990s, and also served on the advisory board to the systematic review of water
fluoridation which was conducted in 1999-2000 by the NHS Centre for
Reviews and Dissemination (CRD) at the University of York. As a user of
homeopathy he has failed to derive much benefit from it, but has supported
its use and development in the UK.

2. The scientific evidence for efficacy

2.1. There have been a number of systematic reviews and meta-analyses in this
field, which as the Committee states are the best sources of evidence. The
most recent review of substance is that by Shang et al in 2005, which it
considered “the most comprehensive to date” and which compared 110
placebo-controlled trials of homoeopathy [authors’ spelling] with 110 trials of
conventional medicine matched for disorder and type of outcome. The
Committee cited a conclusion by the authors [paragraph 69] that “when
analyses were restricted to large trials of higher quality there was no convincing
evidence that homeopathy [sic] was superior to placebo”. They did not
also cite the authors’ interpretation which followed these findings in the
Lancet summary, which stated: “When account was taken for these biases
[common to trials of both homoeopathy and conventional medicine], there
was weak evidence for a specific effect of homoeopathic remedies
, but strong
evidence for specific effects of conventional interventions. This finding is
compatible with the notion that the clinical effects of homoeopathy are
placebo effects.”

2.2. This was no endorsement of homeopathy. But it was some way removed
from the Committee’s conclusion in paragraph 70 of their report, “In our view,
the systematic reviews and meta-analyses conclusively demonstrate that
homeopathic products perform no better than placebos.” It also provides
little support for that part of Professor Ernst’s evidence to the Committee
where he “pointed out that: . . . Shang et al very clearly arrived at a
devastatingly negative overall conclusion
” [67].

2.3. The exaggeration by the Committee of Shang’s conclusions is worrying. It is
difficult to see how a weakly supported positive effect, for which one
explanation (possibly well-founded) is a placebo effect, can be translated into
a conclusive demonstration of this effect, with a “devastatingly” negative
finding
. No such firm claims can be found in Shang, who writes of finding
“no strong” evidence, or “little” evidence, and who ends his paper with
cautions about methodology and about the difficulty of detecting bias in
studies, as well as the role of possible “context effects” in homeopathy.

2.4. The Committee’s overstatement is not helped by claiming Government support
for its interpretation in paragraph 70, based on the Minister’s concession
of no “credible” evidence that homeopathy works beyond placebo. If he
meant persuasive evidence – and his guarded support for further research [75]
supports this – that shows a confusion by the Committee between absence of
evidence and evidence of absence
. If however he was saying that all evidence
was negative, this as Prof. Harper correctly stated [71] runs counter to the
message from most reviews up to and including Shang, which is one of primary
studies of insufficient quantity, rigour, size, homogeneity and power to
give clear-cut answers.

2.5. It is the absence of reliable evidence that remains the problem, and this
includes evidence of an absence of specific effects
(while acknowledging the
problem in proving a negative, an obstacle which did not deflect the
Committee from its conclusive verdict in 70). The Committee itself writes in
69 of no “convincing” evidence from Shang, from higher-quality trials, which
is not consistent with a claim of conclusive (dis)proof. Care with words can
be as important as with figures, and can just as easily mislead.

2.6. In a search for best evidence in the early 2000s this author relied on the bulletin
on homeopathy produced by the NHS CRD at York in 2002, one of an
Effective Health Care series on “the effectiveness of health service
interventions for decision makers”. This bulletin made a systematic
assessment of the evidence to date. It advised “caution” in interpreting this
evidence, and warned that many of the areas researched were “not
representative of the conditions that homeopathic practitioners usually treat”,
and that “the methodological problems of the research” should be considered.
It found “insufficient evidence of effectiveness . . to recommend homeopathy
for any specific condition”. At the same time it could not conclude that
homeopathy performed no better than placebo.

2.7. That was eight years ago. But it is notable that the more recent review by
Shang, on which the Committee relied quite heavily, cited no reference to any
placebo-controlled trial (i.e. of reasonable quality) subsequent to the CRD’s
bulletin, in arriving at a suggestion, but not a conclusion, of a placebo effect.

The House of Commons Committee’s verdict in 70 stands on its own in going
beyond what either review found from the evidence before it.

2.8. In seeking an up-to-date assessment from the NHS CRD, this author was referred
to the German researcher Klaus Linde as among the best of the
objective sources of current evidence on homeopathy. Linde, who was the
lead author of a major review in 1997 cited by the Committee, in turn
recommended the statistician Rainer Lüdtke as an expert with a good
overview of the current literature. Correspondence ensued with both
researchers, who were aware of the Committee’s recent report.

2.9. Both Linde and Lüdtke hold that the Committee’s conclusion in 70 that
reviews “conclusively demonstrate” a placebo effect is overstated and
unsustainable on present evidence. They have further criticisms of the way in
which evidence has been addressed.

2.10. Both are critical of Prof. Ernst’s evidence to the Committee as highlighted in
67. Prof. Linde confirms that his own 1999 re-analysis weakened the findings
of his 1997 review and probably “at least overestimated the effects of
homeopathic treatments”, but that his paper was “not ‘negative’” as stated by
Ernst
. He writes that “A more accurate interpretation is that the ‘re-analyses’
[by himself and 5 others, referred to by Ernst] show that the (positive)
evidence is not fool-proof. This applies still today (for example, to the Shang
analysis)”. Lüdtke draws attention to his own paper in 2002 which criticised
many statistical errors in Ernst’s 2000 re-analysis in the same journal, vitiating
Ernst’s negative conclusion, a published criticism which received no mention
in Ernst’s own evidence to the Committee
. Ernst was correct to state in
evidence elsewhere that the re-analyses of Linde came to a “less than positive”
conclusion, and that further reviews “failed to conclude that homeopathy is
effective”. The Committee, while adopting Ernst’s more absolute
conclusions, has not resolved the contradiction between his statements.

2.11. Lüdtke, like Shang, has also drawn attention to the pitfalls in research into
homeopathy, in a chapter in ‘New directions in homeopathy research’ (Witt C,
Albrecht H, eds.) published in 2009. He counsels against including all types
of homeopathy trials of reasonable quality in one review (such reviews tend to
suggest that homeopathic medicines are not efficacious), since the pooling of
so many different kinds of trial and type of homeopathy makes findings
unreliable
. He advocates restricting systematic reviews to clearly defined
health conditions or to single homeopathic medicines, concluding that “the
heterogeneity of trials is high and the meta-analysis results are not robust
against small changes in study design or statistical analysis”. In a paper
published in 2008 he has argued that Shang’s conclusions do not hold when
slightly different selection criteria are applied, e.g. by redefining how large is a
“large” study, or by including treatment trials but excluding prevention trials.
Size is not the only factor in arriving at robust conclusions.

2.12. Context effects may play a part, according to both Shang and Lüdtke.
Shang’s “powerful alliances” between patient and carer, based on “shared
strong beliefs”, may not be as distinctive or as peculiar to homeopathy as the
nature of the homeopathic consultation, with its wider range of questions than
are addressed in a conventional context, and the lifestyle recommendations
referred to by Lüdtke that often flow from it. There is overlap here with the
placebo effect (see 4 below); but homeopathy as “a complex medical system
of its own” may be responsible for some broader effects.

2.13. Linde writes that the “undecided fraction” to which he belongs is confused by
“the notorious lack of predictable reproducibility” on the one side, and by
“too many anomalous results in high quality studies to rule out a relevant
phenomenon”
on the other.

3. Other evidential considerations

3.1 A conventional argument against CAM treatments is often that they are risky
because they deny or delay a proper diagnosis and the adoption of tried and
tested conventional treatments [105; 108; Ev 26-27]. But this is not an
argument about (as here) homeopathy per se, and its side-effects which at such
high dilutions are as implausible as its efficacy is claimed to be. The potential
for harm however is real enough: but only if patients have not been in contact
with their own doctors, which happens in a minority of cases; if homeopaths
are not adequately trained to recognise ‘red flags’, and give bad advice; and if
conventional treatment is likely to be successful and/or acceptably risk-free in
the particular case, and indeed more successful than a homeopathic approach
.

3.2. The argument for adopting one kind of treatment and not the other relates
therefore to issues of practice, communication and training as well as of
comparative efficacy (for patient choice see 6.1 below). These are highly
important; but it is not legitimate to deploy the argument as the Committee
did as a factor in the intrinsic risk/benefit ratio of a therapy
, which it is not,
adducing it as an additional negative element instead of as part of an efficacy
argument which has already been addressed. (Suppose high-quality trials
establish homeopathy’s superiority over conventional treatment for a
condition: this, with homeopathy’s negligible side-effects, would make the
conventional option the risky one.)

3.3. Nor is the argument even-handed if examination of true side-effects in homeopathic
and conventional treatment is not addressed when discussing the
comparative merits of the two approaches, patient satisfaction, and
government policy. Shang et al gave “the exclusive focus on beneficial effects”
as one of several limitations of their study. The extent of adverse
clinical effects is as much a part of the evidence base as is benefit. If the
Committee had looked at these it might have cast a different light on policy
towards homeopathy in the NHS, and would almost certainly have highlighted
public disquiet about some of the more aggressive conventional treatments
as a reason for many patients preferring a CAM approach. This is a
significant omission.

3.4. There may be no good conventional treatment for a condition. Alternatively,
the standard treatment may be contraindicated. The Committee has not
considered these reasons why some patients may welcome the continued
provision of homeopathy.

4. The placebo effect

4.1. The placebo effect, addressed at some length by the Committee (30–40), is not
in dispute. Yet much about it is unknown
. It may be premature to assume
that patient expectations of modern medicine, with its erudition, structures,
scientific approach and rituals which give it the intellectual and moral high
ground in Western society, are of lesser force than those of a treatment which
is commonly thought of as “implausible”, and not only by scientists. Belief in
white coats is not weak
. Furthermore patients are likely to resort to CAM on
grounds of principle or safety as well as efficacy. The placebo as an
explanation is sometimes reached for too readily off the shelf, when its applicability
to the relevant condition, treatment and patient population is poorly
understood. This gap in argument has not been closed by the Committee.
The placebo effect in homeopathy needs more work before conclusions can be
confidently drawn.

4.2. Empathy in a consultation is more than a matter of time given [81]: it also involves
personality and training. This author has on occasion felt better heard
in a ten-minute GP consultation than in an hour with a CAM therapist,
although the latter have generally shown up well. The better comparator in
CAM situations is probably the specialist consultation, since most patients will
have initially visited their GPs. Nor is it always the fluctuating or selflimiting
conditions [43, 81], as the Committee suggests, that send patients to
unconventional providers; claimed relief from chronic complaints after a long
period of failure with conventional treatment is not uncommon
.

4.3. The surveys of homeopathic patients referred to in 80 suggest that selfreported
benefit was not only at a high level but persisted beyond the limits of
any placebo effect which, as the Committee states, is usually short-lived
.

5. The Committee’s witnesses

5.1. The Committee in two sessions called twelve witnesses to give oral evidence,
all but one with relevant affiliations. Selection of witnesses can affect
outcomes in the same way as selection of written evidence
. It is therefore
legitimate to examine the choices made.

5.2. It is not easy to see why a journalist doctor was invited to appear in preference
to some other non-representative contributors to the inquiry. The written
submission by Dr. Goldacre [Ev. 8] was notably short on supporting evidence,
but contained unqualified statements on the ineffectiveness of homeopathy,
forcefully expressed (“extreme quackery” was mentioned)
. By contrast, the
submission by the Complementary Medicine Research Group from the
Department of Health Sciences at the University of York presented a wellargued
summary with 68 references [Ev. 143]. In this appears the statement
“To date there are eight systematic reviews that provide evidence that the
effects of homeopathy are beyond placebo when used as a treatment for [five
childhood conditions]”
. This claim from a mainstream academic centre, rated
joint first nationally for health services research in the latest Research
Assessment Exercise, stands in stark contradiction to Prof. Ernst’s referenced
claims, noted above, and to Dr. Goldacre’s unreferenced statements
. It would
have been illuminating if the Committee had probed the Group about this,
face to face as a witness, and attempted some resolution before agreeing in
unequivocal terms with the two witnesses who were invited to appear and
were quoted favourably. The Committee criticised the supporters of homeopathy for their “selective
approaches” to evidence [73]. They could fairly be accused of the same.

Unfortunately they did not (presumably) have the scope to solicit the views of
Dr. Linde from Germany, which would have differed from those of Prof. Ernst
with regard to the evidence.

5.3. Only one Primary Care Trust submitted a paper, and it was invited to give
oral evidence on its decision that homeopathy did not provide value for
money. Given the number of PCTs countrywide this is rather surprising. It
might be wondered if some form of publication bias was in play, with the
many PCTs who were happy with provision of homeopathy seeing no need to
defend the status quo
. At least one writer complained of the short timescale
for submissions [Ev. 128]. It would have been interesting to know what steps
the Committee took to obtain a range of views about the evidence
, and
whether West Kent was the only PCT to have done an assessment of the kind
referred to in Ev. 134. Only a negative PCT view was recorded; and despite
the Committee’s unequivocal conclusion even West Kent conceded “limited
evidence in favour of homeopathy”.

6. Societal questions

6.1. Since doctors exist for patients and not the other way round it is not selfevident
that scientific evidence, important as it is, should be the sole
determinant of what is provided to the public.
If the patient is ultimately in
the driving seat (s)he might wish on broader grounds than proven efficacy to
finance this type of treatment rather than that (or in addition to that) from the
public purse. This gives scope for political judgements which can set a
government at odds with its medical advisers. This should be no surprise to
a parliamentary scientific committee which sits at the border of these two
worlds.

6.2. In the purely scientific field it is interesting that the present Committee should
feel “troubled” [71] by two senior government scientists coming to different
conclusions about the weight of homeopathic evidence. Such disagreement
in interpretation is quite common in scientific debate, although life is
undoubtedly easier where there is consensus. Premature consensus,
however, has its own dangers, as is generally recognised. The Committee
appears to require the scientists metaphorically to retire to a jury room and
not come out until they agree [64, 72], presumably with the Committee’s view.
This seems a step too far.

6.3. Pre-existing structures have some de facto claims. It is reasonable to decide
that if something were not in existence one would not call it into being, but if
it is already there one would not abolish it. While theoreticians might debate
this, society as a whole can accept it. It is more easy to accept where the
institution claims a minuscule proportion of the health and research budgets,
which must be the case with homeopathy whatever precise figure the
government comes to at the Committee’s request.

7. Conclusion

7.1. The evidence for homeopathy is not impressive, except possibly in terms of
lack of adverse effects. The Committee however has been less than rigorous
in its approach to this evidence.
Its choice of witnesses favoured a medical
media opponent of homeopathy over a research centre of excellence. It was
unwise to rely heavily on the interpretations of one professor of CAM, some
of whose statements are unsound or in conflict with other statements of his,
and who is not without his critics in the worlds of research and academia
whose views were given less prominence.
The 2005 review by Shang et al has
been inaccurately represented as ruling out specific effects of homeopathy, in
a summary statement by the Committee that goes beyond present evidence.
The Committee’s own statements show confusion between unconvincing
evidence of a specific effect and disproof of it
. The true risk profile of
homeopathy, compared with conventional treatment, was not considered.

7.2. These limitations make the Committee’s report an unreliable source of
evidence about homeopathy.
The jury must still be regarded as out on its
efficacy and risk/ benefit ratio. Whether more research should be done, and
of what kind, is another question. But there can be no ethical objection to it
since the principal questions have not, as the Committee claimed, “been
settled already” [78].

Earl Baldwin of Bewdley.
June 2010.

29 May 2010

Skeptics becoming sceptical about Skeptic events

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I am pleased that skeptics are becoming aware of the pseudo-religiosity of Skeptic in the Pub movement and the financial exploitation of the skeptic population by the James Randi Foundation:

http://www.skeptobot.com/2010/05/skeptical-look-at-tamlondon.html

27 February 2010

Who are the MPs who recommend the end of homeopathy in the NHS?

Voice of (Not So) Young Homeopathy:

“Stop funding NHS Homeopathy, MPs urge”. But who are these MPs?

The Science and Technology Committe report was ‘ratified by THREE MPs: TWO of whom were NOT EVEN PRESENT AT THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS  – and ONE of the two was NOT EVEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE when the hearings were held, and is due to stand down at the election in May this year.’

‘Evan Harris, associate of Sense About Science and it’s fair to say rabid anti-homeopathy campaigner, 1023 participant and ’senior counsel for the prosecution’.

Ian Cawsey – IT expert, who joined the S and T committee in October 2009, just a month before the meetings and yet chose not to attend the committee’s investigation – in fact was nowhere to be seen until the ratification meeting.

Doug Naysmith – an immunologist – did not join the S and T committee until January 2010 – so was not even on the committee until after all the hearings – yet was present for the ratification of the report.  And he is standing down at the next election.  Surely not?’

10 February 2010

Dr Evan Harris bias and behaviour may lose Liberal Democrat votes

Liberal Democrat spokesperson for science Dr Evan Harris’s bias at the UK Government’s Science and Technology Committee Evidence Check on Homeopathy was further confirmed by his unethical behaviour towards Dr Peter Fisher of the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital at the Merseyside Skeptics Society ‘1023’ ‘homeopathy overdose’ stunt recently.  He may cause the Liberal Democrat party to lose votes from homeopaths, homeopathy users (about 10% of the population have taken homeopathic remedies in the last year) and other practitioners of CAM and their supporters. I have consistently voted Lib Dem until now but am reviewing this policy as a direct result and I am not alone.

Here is a video of Evan Harris’s appearance at the 1023 event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYuLjl9bgIw

And at the Science and Technology Committee Evidence Check for Homeopathy meetings:

Wednesday 25th November 2009

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=5221

Monday 30th November 2009

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=5257

Dr Harris may be in breach of Articles 46 and 47 of the GMC’s Guidelines for Good Medical Practice:

Article 46. You must treat your colleagues fairly and with respect. You must not bully or harass them, or unfairly discriminate against them by allowing your personal views to affect adversely your professional relationship with them. You should challenge colleagues if their behaviour does not comply with this guidance.

Article 47. You must not make malicious and unfounded criticisms of colleagues that may undermine patients’ trust in the care or treatment they receive, or in the judgement of those treating them.

More at: http://vonsyhomeopathy.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/1023-dr-evan-harris-and-the-evidence-check/

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